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  1. #1
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    "Merging" different wall types.

    The plan I am busy with has several wall types, intentionally and relevant to the project, and so obviously a wall of one type will butt on to one of another type. I am getting one type "bleeding" into another rather than a "clean" join" and am unable to drag the bledding wall out of the adjoining one to make a clean meet.

    I have spent several hours this morning reading the user manual, the help files etc. but I found nothing on this subject that would tell me why apart from an instruction on another matter to ensure that the "snap object" was switched on.

    Here is a screenshot of what I mean. The "bleeding walls" are indicated by the red squares.

    Any advice for which my thanks in advance.

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    Hi Keith,
    The connections that you're seeing are caused by how you set up the wall layers, and specifically, which layer you selected to be the Main Layer (see the radio check button left of the layer thicknesses in the wall definition dialog). The software will connect walls together at the main layer. In your example image, it looks like you've defined the thick grey layer as the Main Layer, and all connecting walls connect through the other layers to that one.

    In the Wall Specification dialog, on the General Tab, you should see a setting for "Wall Butts Other Walls". This may or may not solve your problem at all locations, but it is worth a try. Otherwise, you may need to rethink on your specific walls and wall types, and try to come up with a definition that better meets your connection requirements (meaning, choosing a more appropriate Main Layer).

    Good luck.
    Last edited by Elovia; 04-14-2013 at 07:58 AM.
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    Thank you for that. It makes perfect sense and I'll have a look at the various wall specifications in the morning.
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    Well, I've tried all sorts of combinations, even using different colours for the various wall types but still the "bleeding" problem remains. It seems to be a bug and I would have thought that the obviously clever minds who created, work on and maintain the software for Chief Architect could devise a bit of code that would stop walls of different types and specs running into each other and just butt against each other in the normal way.
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    Elovia hit the nail on the head by letting you know this isn't a bug, you control how the walls connect by specifying the Main Layer in the Wall Type Definitions dialog.
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    Yeah, I tried that and experimented with various main layers on the walls that have more than one. It seems to be the walls that actually only have one layer that do the "bleeding" into others. For example the fence and the l-shped wall which you see on the screenshot below have been now replaced by a single layer stone wall and I have even used a dark brown colour to depict the wall on the plan but they still do exactly the same thing in exactly the same places. Trying to drag them away to meet where they should doesn't work either. The blighters just spring right back.
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    Instead of "experimenting" you probably want to go ahead and read through what the software's documentation has to say about the Main Layer and how it should be used.

    There's also this Help Database article you might want to look over.

    http://www.homedesignersoftware.com/...p?faqNumber=33
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith_K View Post
    The plan I am busy with has several wall types, intentionally and relevant to the project, and so obviously a wall of one type will butt on to one of another type. I am getting one type "bleeding" into another rather than a "clean" join" and am unable to drag the bledding wall out of the adjoining one to make a clean meet.

    I have spent several hours this morning reading the user manual, the help files etc. but I found nothing on this subject that would tell me why apart from an instruction on another matter to ensure that the "snap object" was switched on.

    Here is a screenshot of what I mean. The "bleeding walls" are indicated by the red squares.

    Any advice for which my thanks in advance.

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    Keith, could you open the plan, select the corner (see my screen shot) select either of the walls that make the corner, open the wall specification dialogue, define layers and do a screen shot and post it. I for one have had many issues with similar situations and with others help resolved them all. I haven't yet had the particular one you seem to have encountered, but again; it really isn't a bug. You will see examples of a special wall type I developed for a special situation and the first shows the problem I encountered, the second show the fix. I had to do wall breaks on each side of the adjoining wall and rotate layers to get the offending walls to stop "bleeding" as you call it, into the other side. Practice does make perfect if you have the patients to keep working at it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elovia View Post
    In the Wall Specification dialog, on the General Tab, you should see a setting for "Wall Butts Other Walls". This may or may not solve your problem at all locations, but it is worth a try.
    Bilmey! It made my eyes bleed trying to find this thread again.

    Elovia, your response quoted above has always been in the back of my mind when I still encounter this "problem" and I go to the wall specification general tab to try and find the setting you recommend. I may be blind or, because I am looking too hard, for the life of me I can't see the setting. Can you post a screenshot of what your wall specifcation general tab looks like because I think being an earlier version of HD Pro it may be different to mine for some reason?
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    See if this You Tube video helps you please:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKqTM_0Cguk

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