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06-25-2008, 06:57 AM #1Registered User
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Originally Posted by llfalcon
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06-25-2008, 02:46 PM #2Registered User
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Well, the bad news is the problem does not appear to be the memory. I went ahead and removed the add-on memory, leaving only the original, and the PC crashed. I took out the original, put in only the add-on, and the PC crashed. I put all of it back in, reversing the original order, and the PC crashed.
In a last-ditch effort to avoid calling Dell, I uninstalled, rebooted, reinstalled. Opened a New File, left the terrain perimeter in place, tried to do a 3D view of just the lot - KABOOM!
$%#@&*^!!! Where's that Makers Mark, Absolut and Tanqueray we were talking about earlier....?llfalcon
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06-24-2008, 05:53 PM #3Registered User
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Sometimes memory is not compatible with each other. Different size memory chips/boards can have different address line interlacing and not work with each other.
I have had motherboards that demand the largest memory be in the lowest or highest ram slot.
Some take timing from the first placed Ram stick and it is too slow or too fast for the other one.
Perhaps your applications have never utilized memory that high on the address bus?
Who knows but having both to experiment with is a definite plus for troubleshooting. Try only one and then only the other, then try switching the configuration. Clean the edge connectors dwon with good alcohol (rubbing alcohol contains oil or water to dilute it for humans...don't use).
The problem may go away after playing with the memory physically. Then you will know what it is, just not how to cure it and it may come back later.
Best of luck. You'll get it.BH&G Pro Rev. 7.08
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06-25-2008, 03:55 AM #4Registered User
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Isopropyl alcohol (not J.D) is good but you have to watch the dilution. Tape head cleaners or contact cleaner is about the same thing.
Dell support?. I heard you figure out the time zones and call when there is somebody you can understand. Apparently during the day you have real N.American. help people online.... "hola?" LOLBH&G Pro Rev. 7.08
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06-27-2008, 06:29 PM #5Registered User
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When I bought my first dual core motherboard it came with a warning that it would slow some software down?????
I guess the MS O/S I/F calls are not well defined as many manufacturers have complained about not being compatible and not getting answers from MS how to become compatible.BH&G Pro Rev. 7.08
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06-29-2008, 02:18 PM #6Registered User
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Larry, because you mentioned the slow-down warning regarding dual-core processors, I saved my plan without Terrain to avoid crashing my PC again, then ran a test. I turned dual-core processing on, clicked on Full Overview and counted. Rebooted, turned dual-core off, clicked on Full Overview and counted. It took five seconds less to render with dual-core OFF, 44 with OFF vs. 49 with ON. It was a fair test. I followed the exact same steps in the exact same order, both the first thing after a reboot.
I'm leaving it off for good. Case closed.llfalcon
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06-30-2008, 04:53 PM #7Registered User
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That will be the next software option in 3rd party or Windows...turn off dual core processing for all but listed software.
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I built a house using this and am still find it Mickey Mouse quality.